The Meaning Behind Fur Elise - A Verse Heard In Post Malone's Song


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Nothing intrigues the public like the secrets of the great and famous. Whether it is in 2017 or 1810, the mystique of secret loves and unknown origins captivate us all.

When the mystery involves Ludwig van Beethoven, a musician who stands historically at the pinnacle of greatness and fame, it ups the ante considerably! The romance of it all makes one almost swoon (as they might have said in 1810).

Okay, what does Fúr Elise mean?

Most of you are probably very aware that it is a charming piece of classical music written for solo piano, and it’s thought that it was written by Beethoven for a lady. In German, it translates to “For Elise.” The actual name of the piece is Bagatelle No. 25 in A Minor. And without a doubt it is today probably the composer’s most famous piece, played frequently, often loved but frequently overplayed and butchered by novices. It is the most famous piano music Beethoven ever composed, probably because practically anyone can play it.

A YouTube rendition of Beethoven’s Fur Elise
No matter where you go you will find Fur Elise sheet music and Fur Elise piano strains in the cafes, the theaters, the movies and the ring tones of smart phones.

The First Mystery – Who Composed Fur Elise?

The mystery began when the original handwritten draft and autographed score was found in in a Munich private home in the possession of Fräulein Babeth Bredl by a 19th Century musicologist named Ludwig Nohl. This was forty years after Beethoven’s death! The autograph read: ‘For Elise on 27 April as a remembrance of L. v. Bthvn’ Nohl transcribed it, but the autograph then disappeared. Fräulein Babeth Bredl gave Nohl permission in 1867 to publish it in his book on new Beethoven letters. A footnote in the book claimed ‘this quite charming little piano piece comes from the estate of Therese von Droßdik née Malfatti, who had given it to Miss Bredl of Munich’.

Luca Chiantore, a contemporary (b. 1966) scholar and musicologist and an Italian pianist, doubts the authorship of the piece. He proposes that no such finished manuscript existed and that Nohl himself derived the piece from perhaps a Beethoven’s sketch, leaving a question, Who wrote Fur Elise?
Beethoven’s handwriting, being very difficult to decipher, does turn up on a draft of Fur Elise with penciled notes added in 1833. It is viewable online at the Beethoven-Haus digital archive. It’s ascertained to be Beethoven’s rough draft of the existing Bagatelle. In 1984, a musicologist named Barry Cooper, pointed out in an article that there was very little needed to complete this draft. It was all but written. This pushes against the Nohl story and Chiantore’s doubts. It’s a mystery.

The Second Mystery – For Elise – Was it Meant to be Therese?

Who is Elise? No-one remembered any Elise in Beethoven’s life.

What people remembered was that Beethoven was smitten by one of his students and had asked for the hand of the lady, named Therese Malfatti, and had been refused. Yes, this is the same Therese who gave the original music sketch to Fraulein Bredl.
One story goes that in 1810, (Beethoven would have been 40 years old) he was invited to the Malfatti home for a party. Beethoven composed a short piano piece – Bagatelle Wo0 59 – for Therese, perhaps intending to play it for the family and guests and propose marriage.

The punch at this party was strong and Beethoven overly imbibed, too drunk to play his piece or propose anything.

Therese asked him for an inscription, and he wrote “Fur Therese” in almost illegible writing across the bagatelle. This is the piece passed along to her friend in Germany, probably bequeathed at her death. She did not accept Beethoven’s proposal, but instead in 1816 married a Hungarian count, Johann Wilhelm von Drosdick. Therese died in 1851.

Was There Really an Elise at all?

Nohl explained in his Beethoven letters book that even though the piece was originally in the care of Therese Malfatti, it was not composed for her but, according to the inscription in Beethoven’s hand, was written ‘for Elise’. He then added that Baroness von Gleichenstein (the sister of Therese von Droßdik) could not remember who Elise was. Since there was no known person named Elise in Beethoven’s circle of friends, scholars were mystified.

It was noted that he first met the rather elderly poetess Elise von der Recke (1754-1833) in Teplitz in 1811, the date making her an unlikely candidate. 1810 is the year of the Fur Elise creation.

Another Mysterious Theory

Contemporary Berlin musicologist Klaus Martin Kopitz (b. 1955) believes he uncovered Elise’s true identity – while he wasn’t even looking for it.

“For years, I’ve been working on a publication called ‘Beethoven in the eyes of his contemporaries,’ which includes all the reports from people who knew Beethoven personally: journals, letters, poems, memoires,” said Kopitz. “Certain women are mentioned, and one of them was Elisabeth Roeckel.”
According to Kopitz, a singer named Joseph Roeckel, sang in Beethoven’s opera “Fidelio” and had a younger sister named Elisabeth Roeckel. Beethoven and Roeckel became friends. In their circle, Elisabeth was affectionately nicknamed “Elise” and was musically inclined, a pianist, and later a singer.

In a letter, Elise wrote about an evening with the composer, the famous guitarist Mauro Giuliani, and composer Johann Nepomuk Hummel, who would later become her husband. “She wrote that Beethoven, true to his frisky Rhenish disposition, wouldn’t stop teasing her and she didn’t know what to do,”

In the spring of 1810, she went to Bamberg to work in theater, with the hope of impressing none other than ETA Hoffman, who was the theater manager there at the time.

Kopitz believes Beethoven dedicated the Bagatelle piano piece “in the memory of” Elise because they were separated when she relocated to Bamberg. Since Elisabeth Roeckel was referred to in the dedication as “Elise” and not the more formal “Fraeulein Roeckel,” she must have known Beethoven well, theorizes Kopitz

Indeed, their relationship was documented, as Elise herself had written about it.

The fact that Elise married Johann Hummel apparently did not mean the end of her friendship with Beethoven. Several days before the composer’s death in March 1827, Elise visited him. For remembrance, she cut off a lock of his hair and accepted one of his quills as a token.

Why did Elisabeth Roeckel remain anonymous to musicologists over the years? And why has the music so often been attributed to Therese Malfatti, who Beethoven proposed to in 1810? 1810 is the year Elise left Beethoven behind. Perhaps he was trying to catch Therese on the rebound? Who knows?
If, however, the Bagatelle was composed for Elise and not Therese, it is how and why the original manuscript could have made it into Therese’s hands 

Did Beethoven recycle it?

Kopitz admitted that his theory on this point is not particularly scientific:

The director of the Beethoven Archive at the Beethoven House in Bonn, Bernhard Appel, said he was skeptical of Kopitz’ hypothesis, though he emphasized that he could not make a conclusion until the report Kopitz was preparing was available for detailed review.

“Elise was a very common name in Vienna at the time,” said Appel, so the dedication could have referred to any number of women. He added that, to prove who Elise really was, one would have to clarify the path the manuscript took before it disappeared.
“Would the music change if we knew who it was dedicated to?” questioned Appel.

Openview Plus Updates: eMedia Investments' eToonz To Get It's First Ever Official Competitor From Ngwato Nkosi Group And e.tv Scraps uBettina Wethu Season 4 As Die Kontrak Returns With A Season 3 On eExtra

DStv to rollout a premium eToonz channel

Last month, MultiChoice and Zee Entertainment Enterprises unveiled a Zulu dubbed Bollywood channel titled Zee Zonke. In some way, it sort of seemed like this was the pay-tv operators way of doing eExtra's Kuiertyd dirty by launching the exact opposite.

Play Room appears to be more enhanced version to the current eToonz channel as it set to carry a number of repeats like Paw Patrol, CoComelon and Akili And Me some of which will be dubbed in local languages and also get a sign language interpreter something not offered to Openview.

Why we consider this the first eToonz competitor? Simple, brands like Cartoon Network and PBS Kids are considered premium channels to some extent as they serve original productions and Play Room offering is limited which is why we pinned these two with each other.

Die Kontrak is back for a season 3

Last year, eMedia Investments revived Die Kontrak (formerly seen on Via) for a second season which had proved to be a resounding success if the show was fortunate enough to get a third season. Similar to Idols and The Voice, musicians are given a chance to own the stage with a winner set to get a recording contract.

Premiering episodes are on eExtra every Sunday at 18:00 with repeats said to be allocated on e.tv in an undisclosed timeslot.

uBettina Wethu has been removed from primetime

Last month, it had been reported that uBettina Wethu would return to e.tv for a fourth season as SABC lost rights to the fashion drama. But as seen in recent weeks, eMedia decided to pull the show off the schedule with its timeslot bombarded with content from eReality.

Several things came to mind and that was the possibility of this recent adjustment being permanent. Since rolling out local dramas in the 20:30 timeslot none of them have managed to immense as much success as Scandal or House Of Zwide.

Theoretically, could it be possible that uBettina Wethu could perhaps debut on a new timeslot perhaps 18:30 as Nikiwe has been struggling to garner much traction with consumers making it a very easy target and also another way to give the upcoming season exposure.

#BoycottingNick: Could Play Room Be Added As A Replacement Channel Perhaps For Nicktoons On DStv?

During the week, it was learnt by MultiChoice and Ngwato Nkosi Group that a new children's channel will be allocated on DStv in the coming months, Play Room. It will feature educational and entertaining shows the with selected content dubbed in Zulu.

Since last year, MultiChoice has been battling with transponder constraints that often channels had to be removed in order to make space for more. This is how the pay-tv company was able to rollout Hilaal TV, Racing240, Magic Showcase, Qwest TV and recently added Zee Zonke.

Would it seem far fetched if Play Room were treated in the same manner?

Last year, MultiChoice attempted to phase out the educational brand Da Vinci for a toddler filtered Moonbug and that garnered backlash amongst consumers which led MultiChoice to retract their previous agreement with Moonbug added as a new channel.

But this time around things might be different and MultiChoice may have it's eye out on another brand (e.g. Nicktoons).

Nicktoons was added as a replacement channel for Comcast and Corus Entertainment's KidsCo featuring various shows from Nickelodeon like Paw Patrol, Dora The Explorer, SpongeBob SquarePants, The Fairly OddParents, The Loud House and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Over the years, the channel has somewhat been redundant most of the schedule is bombarded with just 2 shows and you'd have a variety of shows like Peppa Pig, Best & Bester, ALVINNN!!! And The Chipmunks being integrated to the Nickelodeon and Nick Jr.

Making it a very easy target seeing as various content is very much viewable on Nickelodeon and soon Play Room. This would be one way to supposedly limit the repeats although Play Room keeps it at a minimum.

Interesting to note, the last kids brand to retain the channel 300 was replaced by Nickelodeon so this would be one way for MultiChoice to avenge K-TV. After its legacy had been replenished by the channel as it's older audience preferred shows like Hannah Montana and Big Time Rush.

What To Expect On History Africa In October 2023?

Brand New
SECRET SOCIETIES: IN THE SHADOWS
13 October, Fridays 19h25 
Around the world, and throughout history, secret societies have bubbled under the surface. In crypts and clubhouses, under lock and key and in the darkest corners of the internet they assemble for mysterious purposes. Each of the six episodes delves into the murky history of a secret society: the Knights Templar, the Freemasons, the Hermet c Order of the Golden Dawn, the Illuminati, the Skull and Bones, and Le Cercle. What were their origins, and their missions? Did they pull the levers of power, or aim to destroy those in charge? What rituals and oaths were taken by members, and which famous people were involved? Most importantly, what may be lef of these organisations? Is it possible that some groups, however archaic, are still operat ng in the shadows? Repeats: Mondays at 11h45

Brand New
THE CURSE OF SKINWALKER RANCH S3
13 October, Fridays 20:00
they find new evidence of a mysterious anomaly in the sky one mile above the ‘Triangle Area’ that may be connected to something deep within the Mesa, they invite former members of the U.S. military connected to an 15.
The research team returns for their third year to investigate the high strangeness of Skinwalker Ranch, an area in Utah in the USA which is reputed to be the site of paranormal activities. In this season 3 infamous encounter to the ranch and work with a group of astronomy experts to conduct a telescope and rocket experiment. Repeats: Mondays at 12h10

WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE
THE BRITISH EMPIRE? SDH
SUBTITLES FOR THE DEAF AND HARDOFHEARING
28 October Saturdays 20h15 In this ground-breaking, four-part series, Al Murray takes us on an insight ul trip through some of the toughest parts of Brit sh Imperial History, including a road trip across South Africa accompanied by local comedian Loyiso Gola. In the fi rst episode Loyiso hosts Al in South Africa, exposing brutal truths, modern day legacies and global impact of some of Britain’s greatest colonial conquests. Other countries that are featured include the Caribbean, Australia and India. Along the way, Al’s alter ego - the Pub Landlord - has his say too, giving his unique and highly controversial take on every topical issue before Al brings it back to the raw facts. This is colonial Brit sh history as it has never been told. At t mes as humorous as it is heart-breaking. In each episode, experts and every day folk have their say as Al, with the help of his host, pieces together an honest account of what the Brit sh Empire really did in their country. How they did it. And who, if anyone, still cares. Repeats: Sundays at 19h25

AFTER BRAVEHEART
29 October, Sundays 20h15 
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What To Expect On Comedy Central Across Africa In October 2023?

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SEASON 5 & 6
WEEKDAYS @ 22:00
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EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS
SEASON 4
WEEKDAYS 4 SEPTEMBER @ 16:00
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THE SOUTH PARK HALLOWEEN STUNT
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Are you looking for a satirical Halloween to get you through the last week of October, Comedy Central is where you'll find it! Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman will provide some inspirational Halloween costumes and and will make sure you are horrified by their tricks and behavior.

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